Tuesday, March 22, 2011

Professionalism pt.2

And why is this true?
Is there not equal access to internet across genders? Typically, when there's a huge disparity between men and women, gatekeepers are blamed as the culprit. Are there gatekeepers between women and the internet?

(That's a genuine question).

5 comments:

RVCBard said...

Are there gatekeepers between women and the internet?

I'd have to say yes. Gatekeeping in the blogosphere refers to more than the physical apparatus of an internet connection or the financial capacity to pay for such a connection.

It also comes from who we consider worth listening and responding to. These people are generally not women. It's not like we don't have anything to say. It's just that, it seems to me, male bloggers don't care unless we cater to their sensibilities.

RVCBard said...

I want to follow up with another point.

The "Where are they?" thing always crops up when it becomes clear that there's a discrepancy between representation and reality. And it always comes from the dominant side of that question (men asking about women, White people asking about people of color, straights asking about gays, etc.). Truth be told, the reason why they don't see us is because they're not looking, and they're not listening.

I think "Where are they?" is the wrong question. A better question: How can I listen better to the people trying to speak to me?

CultureFuture said...

Does that mean that if male bloggers don't retweet/link to/expound on female bloggers, they don't exist? They go away? Because as I understand that datapoint, the question is where are they.

One would assume that there would be people on the internet by gender roughly proportional to the gender in the population. Then, the question would be why are most of the bloggers in my blog-reader male, which would be closer to the second question of why people aren't listening.

Granted, I don't know how the people who put together the graph gathered the data, so they might be measuring off of some gate-keeper influenced area, but... I had a blog for two and a half years before anyone ever commented or linked to it, but it still existed on the internet. It was a mostly futile exercise, but it would still count in that number of bloggers, one assumes.

(Not that it's not a problem if people aren't listening.)

RVCBard said...

Does that mean that if male bloggers don't retweet/link to/expound on female bloggers, they don't exist? They go away?

In a weird sort of way, I think they do, at least as far as other male bloggers are concerned. Outta sight, outta mind and all that.

Granted, I don't know how the people who put together the graph gathered the data, so they might be measuring off of some gate-keeper influenced area, but... I had a blog for two and a half years before anyone ever commented or linked to it, but it still existed on the internet. It was a mostly futile exercise, but it would still count in that number of bloggers, one assumes.

It would depend upon how they selected their data, to be sure. If it's self-selected, you have the issue of who's more likely to respond to such a query. If it's a third party making the choices, you have an issue of who they're exposed to.

So, again, there are always gatekeepers.

CultureFuture said...

It would depend upon how they selected their data, to be sure. If it's self-selected, you have the issue of who's more likely to respond to such a query. If it's a third party making the choices, you have an issue of who they're exposed to.

I see. I had assumed that they had generated the data in a more blanket way -- going to big blogging platforms (e.g. Blogspot) and collecting data from them on their userbase, which wouldn't really require a selection process.

But now I'm seeing other data (such as here ) that shows that the numbers in that graphic might not be accurate anyways.

Anyways, to your points: I agree that, from the perspective of "the mainstream" or "the consensus" or "the blogosphere", ignoring female bloggers makes them go away... but from the empirical perspective of "how many people have active accounts on blogspot.com or typepad.com or etc. and also are female" I don't know if the same is true.

Still, I'm going to do more research to see if I can figure out what the actual facts are.